Durty Harry's Vandalized on Halloween

Durty Harry's was the only Main Street business targeted on Halloween night by vandals.

The storefront, door and sign at was seriously vandalized on Halloween night with several dozen eggs and what was apparently vomit. 

It was the only Main Street business that appeared to be targeted by vandals, and owner Michelle Fournier is presuming the attack was a response to a recent debate on Patch about the teenagers who hang out in front of her business. Earlier in October, Fournier , asking for help with the situation.

She said the group of loitering teens is affecting her business and she sought support from the neighborhood and local police in addressing the problems. Dozens of Patch readers responded and a heated debate developed.

Last year, and vandalized the Chinese restaurant, which is next door to Durty Harry's.

Halloween vandalism

A spokeswoman in Boston Police community service office that serves Charlestown said on Tuesday morning that she hadn't seen any reports of vandalism from the neighborhood. But a resident on Main Street told Patch that she heard teenagers were attacking cab drivers with eggs around Eden Street Playground.

Fournier anticipates that it will take some time to clean her storefront -- and may require a power washer.

Cory Gudwin November 01, 2011 at 03:41 PM
No word yet from apologists for the nasty Oxycontin-dealing juvenile delinquents who hang out in front?
Mary Beth Emerson Lovejoy November 01, 2011 at 03:55 PM
I went "egg-ing" on Halloween as a teen and we never did anything like this. We only went after one another. There is NO defending this. This was an intentional act designed to hurt the owner and that is just sad. Let's not turn this into locals versus newcomers.
charlestownlover November 01, 2011 at 04:02 PM
I would be willing to donate money so Michelle can buy state of the art security cameras. The vandals should be in jail.
Joseph November 01, 2011 at 04:06 PM
If the kids and adults that are constantly defending this group have any moral high ground, they would turn them in. Plain and simple. Congrats to the CNC and CCC for helping Michelle out. You should be real proud of all the “hard work” you do.
Seamus O'Sullivan November 01, 2011 at 04:13 PM
Mary Beth- As much as I agree with you on avoiding the Townies vs. Yuppies debate, unfortunately I think we need to be realistic about the issue. It is a townie vs. yuppie thing. Most of the Townies, as evidenced by their comments on Patch, seem to condone loitering and generally sitting around doing nothing as part of Townie culture; the way it's always been; you can't change us; etc. etc. ad nauseam. Most of the rest of us take a less insular view and realize it's ridiculous in every rational way to allow kids to hang around the streets at all hours of the day/night. It makes no sense. It's bad for business. It's bad for neighborhood morale. Nothing good comes of it. The question is, if enough people are fed up with it - I guarantee more people are against it than for it - how can we channel this energy into something more concrete to actually affect some sort of change? I'm so sick of these idiots thinking the streets belong to them and acting like it is what it is.
Nicole O'Neil November 01, 2011 at 04:25 PM
It is HORRIBLE this happened. This is a great example of why people from all sides need to actually do something and come TOGETHER to deal with this. Do not turn this into townie vs yuppie thing. I lived in NH when i was a teen and I saw kids there egg cars, there are teens who do these things everywhere. And do not generalize all teenagers in Charlestown OR who hang out on Main St. as part of this. This act is disgraceful and if anyone does know who did it, something should certainly be done. Let's work on dealing with this issue from the heart of it and not make it a war between new and old. I have offered to be part of a task force and figure this out. If anyone is willing to actually get to root of these problems and deal with it without throwing accusations and generalizing, you can email me and i'll be happy to work alongside anyone who truly wants to do something. nicoleoneilphotography@gmail.com
Mary Beth Emerson Lovejoy November 01, 2011 at 04:31 PM
Bravo Nicole! . I agree, kids hanging on street corners is not just a "Townie" thing. It happens in cities around the country. Suburb kids hang at malls and cause trouble, and from what I've heard, rural kids "tip" cows. It doesn't matter where you come from, bored teenagers equals trouble. I don't care if you grew up Charlestown, Wellesley, or wherever, you had troublemakers in your town. Charlestown teens are not unique.
mm November 01, 2011 at 05:20 PM
Seamus Please do not start this again. I am a Townie and I do not condone this in any way shape or form. I also called Michelle this morning to see if I could help clean or do anything. I think the people responsible for this (I know it is the teens who hang up there) should have consequences for this. All Townies are not alike, Some of us know reality and the difference between right and wrong. There is NO excuse for what was done to Durty Harry's, but please keep in mind your posts on here created to start an argument only add to the tension and problem and do not even come close to a solution. Lets ban together and hep Durty Harry's!!
Elaine November 01, 2011 at 06:13 PM
Seamus, You are a Hugh part of this problem!
Diane Mc November 01, 2011 at 08:24 PM
Real mature!!!! Unbelievable! I cannot believe that after all the back and forth on previous articles in the Patch from all sides of the issue, this happens? It is about time that Boston Police or Charlestown install cameras in problem areas. If this were to happen anywhere around Downtown Boston there would be surveillance cameras everywhere and these idiots would be caught. Put their faces on the news like Bank Robbers and thieves. Vandalism is against the law. Repairing/cleaning destruction by vandals costs a lot of money and can put small business out of business. Obviously, if these people had a brain in their head they would realize that they are hurting business owners therefore hurting the economy and putting people out of jobs. They are so out of touch with reality. Get an education, get a job, GET A LIFE and get your sorry asses off the streets. And the opposition can stop making excuses for them. Spread the message....not the mess!
Mary Beth Emerson Lovejoy November 01, 2011 at 08:47 PM
Diane, Nobody is making excuses for them. Not one of us condoned what happened if you read all the comments. We are only saying that this kind of stuff is not unique to Charlestown youth.
Townie Girl November 01, 2011 at 09:34 PM
I don't by any means condone what the youths have done, however if the newbies came to this town and got to know the residents (Townies) instead of trying to change everything about the town the push and pull of townies vs newbies wouldn't even be an issue. maybe if some of the businesses around the town gave some of the youths of charlestown jobs in their establishments the youth would be more apt to take pride in the area. I have seen a lot of the businesses in charlestown try to ignore townies and put more effort and kindness into the yuppies in this town. Can't we all just get along?
Joseph November 01, 2011 at 10:33 PM
Elaine - What do you have to say about Townie Girls comment? Is TG a Hugh part of the problem too? Townie Girl - Are you listening to yourself? Yes, you do condone what happened because you are making up excuses to justify their actions. Durty Harry's didn't GIVE them a job, so let's ruin the business. Jobs are earned, not handed out like welfare. I've seen a lot in my years living here, but people defending what happened to Durty's by blaming others instead of those that are responsible really cuts the cake. Mary Beth - You sound as if you're making excuses for them. We're not talking about other towns. We're talking about Charlestown. Kids will be kids, you're absolutely right. What happened to Durty's was a direct result for a business owner trying to clean up her little section of Main Street and these oustanding citfine citizens decided to teach her a lesson. You know it. I know it. We all know it. End of story.
Diane Mc November 01, 2011 at 10:42 PM
I apologize. I was referring to the comments last month defending their actions saying that "if they only had somewhere to go" etc...
Nicole O'Neil November 01, 2011 at 10:49 PM
This is getting ridiculous again. Everyone wants to have their say and no one wants to help resolve the issue. Funny. I've said twice that I am willing to get together with people from all sides and get to the root of the problem and make sure things like this don't happen and yet NOT ONE person has replied to that, emailed me, or stepped up. Any comments about this happening in other places is a response to the comments of this being a "townie thing". However, this still is NOT the point. A large discussion (which did not prove to be productive) happened which escalated to this happening. It is 100% WRONG to retaliate against someone who is just simply trying to run her business and do so with ease. Obviously there is a lack of respect for people's property and really, people in general. You can try to blame parents, peer pressure, whatever you want, but this still doesn't get to the heart of it. I honestly believe this is a trend in our country as a whole. There are not consequences for actions in many cases for many reasons. I find children and teens to certainly be more disrespectful now than 5-10 years ago. So what is the answer? Is making excuses for them right? NO. This was absolutely INEXCUSABLE. Is attacking each other with comments going to help this issue? NO. Is continuing to live in a closed minded world where it's new people against old people helpful? NO. Let's set an example as adults for these kids and let's ACTUALLY WORK to fix the problem.
getatissue November 02, 2011 at 02:33 AM
NObody is stoppin this lady from running her business,she knew what came with the location. these kids have been there longer than you have and theyre not going anyhwere. if she and everyone else would take the issue to the kids,like maybe try talking to them instead of hiding on the charlestown patch you might actually see a result. When you come here and try to change everything to your standards is when you are goin to see kids resenting you.You might wanna try the navy yaard !
Bette Task November 02, 2011 at 11:24 AM
getatissue Get a life! If you had your way, there would still be 22 bars in City Square!
Elaine November 02, 2011 at 12:57 PM
I agree with you, I believe their comments are toxic and they are a big part of this disease and no part of a cure!
Mary Beth Emerson Lovejoy November 02, 2011 at 01:01 PM
Joseph- If you read my very first comment you will see I am not defending these kids. I was only responding to people starting up the whole "townie" crap again. The solution really lies with the parents. If you know your kid hangs there and you are aware of what is going on, then you have a responsibility to make sure that your child is not part of the problem. Years ago my son was part of a group ringing bells and running near Edent St. I was not aware of it at first but when I did find out I apologized to the residents who was targeted and my son never hung out on Main street again.
Daniel Marcella November 02, 2011 at 01:41 PM
Hell Bette, I WISH there were still 22 bars in City Square! ;) The stories I heard from my late father, uncles and older family members were legendary! Sadly, in 20 years, Charlestown kids will hear *tales* of 'bike lanes' and 'dog parks.' Boooorrrrriiiing! :D
02129resident November 02, 2011 at 01:54 PM
This story, and many of the comments, are so upsetting. I was at the Monument on Monday evening, and was so grateful to live in this neighborhood. The Halloween event, enjoyed by hundreds of families from all corners of the neighborhood, reminded me why I am choosing to raise my family here. As I walked home from trick or treating, I saw the heavy police presence on Main Street. I can't for the life of me imagine why the police pulled up stakes and left to allow this small group of people to continue to make life unpleasant for the rest of us. This is NOT a yuppie v. townie issue. Many of you would probably call me a "yuppie," but in my 10 years here, I have met and become friends with plenty of "townies." And NONE of the townies that I know would tolerate from their kids the kind of behavior that we are seeing from this group of teens. I generally look the other way when I see kids drinking in Eden St park. I enjoyed a beer or two as a teen, and understand on some level that "kids will be kids." But what SOME of these kids are doing goes way beyond this. We can't tolerate this violence in our neighborhood (Speedy Chen's incident, violence last winter during the snowstorm). What they are doing to Michelle is inexcusable. Where are our neighborhood leaders on this? Mayor Menino? Councilor LaMattina? Somebody has to stop this now.
Gtree November 02, 2011 at 02:06 PM
I thought the defense of the punks on Main St was that they are just hanging around not causing a problem. Not bothering anyone. Well, I guess that defense is out the window. Now it is time for the Police to take over.
Joseph November 02, 2011 at 03:39 PM
Brian, what are you talking about? My distain is for the ACTION that a select few took against this business owner. I didn't place labels on them. I didn't call out the group. I said I don't understand how anybody living in Charlestown can justify the actions by the select few. For the record Brian, I believe I was the only one that responded to “Matty’s” comment about needing resources to fix up the basketball courts and roller hockey rink at Eden Street…as of today, zero response by Matty. Mary Beth, the context of your comments in your 2nd post seems to be justifying their actions. It’s difficult for me to see how any resident living in Charlestown can take any angle condoning what happened. If I misunderstood, I apologize.
Getalife.... November 02, 2011 at 03:43 PM
It's eggs, hose it down and move on........
Townie Girl November 02, 2011 at 04:27 PM
Townie Girl 11:09am on Wednesday, November 2, 2011 You know I am a firm believer that it takes a village to raise a child. we all need to find a way to help the mind set of these youth, that is why I suggested earlier maybe these store owners can hire a youth and give them sonething to do , to be productive, instead of downing all of the youth on main st or charlestown. I agree a lot of these parents are saying not my child .however, that is not true for the majority of the parents in charlestown. what it comes down to is that vandalism , disrespect is totally not acceptable. I also would like to say the police did their jobs on halloween there was not trouble on main street, unfortunately the police can not stay on main street forever. so when the police left it sounds like that is when they struck. I am not condoning , or giving excuses nor am I part of the problem as Joe seems to think, I do think instead of downing all of the youth in charlestown we should all come to a conclusion. That's all I am saying.
Sean McKenna November 02, 2011 at 11:52 PM
Uh ... did I just get called an a$$hole? I haven't posted any comments here. ?????
Dennis Taylor November 03, 2011 at 12:29 AM
This act of vandalism isn't in any way, shape, or form helping the problem. I would love to get a group of my friends together and have some sort of meeting or chat with anyone who wants to be involved (Michelle & various other business owners etc.), to find a solution to this. There is no accuse as to what happened to her storefront Monday night, not right at all. But, still the "loitering" issue needs to be worked on to find an answer to all of our problems & concerns. Nicole, I would love to figure out something along those lines. As for others of you commenting on here, bringing up past issues isn't going to solve any of the present problems. I'm sure we do not want this article to end up like the other one - just sayin'! But let's stop the bickering and set up something to let both sides of the issues state their piece (face to face; not behind a computer) and settle this issue.
Kathleen Whelan Giordano November 03, 2011 at 02:51 AM
Bravo, Dennis. Out of the mouth of our teenagers comes civility. Finally. Let those who truly have a state in the future of Charlestown lead us. Dennis and Nicole, I would be happy to set up a meeting to discuss this issue. Invite anyone and everyone who is really interested in a solution. Give me a day or two and I'll come back with a meeting site, date and time. Let's start resolving and stop blaming and name calling. Cookie
Mary Beth Emerson Lovejoy November 03, 2011 at 12:57 PM
Someone asked about involving our local politicians so I contacted Eugene O'Flaherty and they are aware of the situation. Here is the response: It's Sean from the office. Thank you for being in touch. Gene has been briefed and is working with the CNC and the City on this matter. You are correct. Finger pointing doesn't get us anywhere, and it will not change the behaviour of certain individuals. Be assured we are working with the Mayors office, BPD, CNC, and Michelle from Durty Harry's on this. I very much feel for Michelle, and have visited her on several occasions since her letter first appeared on the Patch. I also spoke to her and witnessed the vandalism yesterday. It will be a topic of conversation at the CNC Public Safety Meeting with Captain O'Rourke on the 15th. We will continue to be involved in this matter through it's resolution. If I can be of any further help, never hesitate to be in touch. I will let Gene know you were inquiring about this, and thanks again for being in touch. Sean Getchell Aide to Representative Eugene L. O’Flaherty 2nd Suffolk District State House Room 136 (617) 722-2396 Sean.Getchell@mahouse.gov ..
MJ Campbell November 05, 2011 at 08:14 PM
Thanks, Nicole, Cookie and Denis! You have my email and numbers. I'd love to help out.


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